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    Spotting Bluffs

    Thundercat
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    Post by Thundercat Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:45 pm

    Some people think that only items that are original and your own should be posted on here. I disagree, after all how can we learn if we cant learn from players that are better than us? To think that anyone has an original idea or a different way of playing that someone hasn't already tried before, please let me know because I sincerely doubt they do. After all even the Great that play in our tour learn from people like Sklansky. So if I find something that may be of interest to my friends and fellow players then Ill post it, and feel free to do the same, after all its a forum, and isn't that what its all about anyway?


    To put it bluntly:

    "SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, and WATCH."

    Don't start running your mouth... don't try to act cool...
    and don't daydream. The first few minutes you're at the
    table is perhaps the most IMPORTANT time there.

    Once you've done this, be sure not to rush into any hands.
    In fact, I recommend NOT getting involved in any hands at
    the very beginning... and here's why:

    If you're an experienced tournament player, you know that
    most players are eliminated from tournaments when they are
    in "shuffle times" (when they are moving from table to
    table).

    It is at these times when the BIGGEST MISTAKES are usually
    made.

    Let's say that you sit down a new table. You may have been
    playing at a tight table where you could buy a lot of
    pots...

    You sit at this new table... and fall right back into your
    betting pattern. You make a bold move, try to buy a pot, and
    get burnt because THIS TABLE is much LOOSER than the last
    one.

    This puts you at a disadvantage right away... one which you
    might not recover from.

    When I move to a new table... or begin at a game where I
    don't know the players... I always wait at least 3-4 rounds
    of betting before I get involved in a hand... and a lot of
    times I wait EVEN LONGER.

    This gives me a chance to get to know my opponents... BEFORE
    I risk any chips.

    I call it my "Study Period."

    Of course, the WHOLE GAME is a study period in itself... but
    these first few hands is 100% devoted towards just watching
    my poker opponents.

    And here's the added benefit:

    If I don't know my competition, THEY don't know ME, either.
    By taking my time and doing my study period, I learn about
    THEM... but they DON'T LEARN ABOUT ME.

    If anything, they just ASSUME that I'm a tight player...

    That means within 10 minutes, I immediately have an
    advantage over all the other players at the table... even if
    I haven't won a pot yet... or even played a hand.

    OK, so when you do your study period, what should you look
    for?

    A lot of newbies think it's all in the face and in the
    eyes... which is a mistake.

    Most poker tells are the COMBINATION of an entire set of
    movements and behavior...

    On TV-- especially in movies-- poker tells are portrayed as
    something as simple as the twitch of a nose or the movement
    of a leg.

    Kind of like in "Rounders," when Mike McDee figures out
    Teddy KGB based on how he ate his cookies.

    TAKE NOTE...

    For the most part, this type of portrayal of poker tells is
    a TOTAL MYTH.

    If you think you can figure out a player's hand just based
    on how he blinks, you're in for a rude awakening... and
    you'll lose your chips fast.

    In REAL LIFE (where you play), tells are more complex...

    ...VERY RARELY are they "cut and dry."

    When you study your opponents... here are the things you
    should think about:

    1. Past Play

    Think about how this player has acted in the past...

    Is he usually strong or weak?

    Aggressive or timid?

    Smart or dumb?

    And so on...

    2. Timing

    If your instinct tells you that a player deliberated for a
    long time trying to make a choice, chances are that his hand
    isn't too strong.

    However, you should also note how long he has taken to play
    in the past, to make sure that the move wasn't just a
    regular timing move.

    3. Posture

    Especially with bad players, the posture of a player is a
    key tell that will reveal a lot about a hand...

    If the person leans back, that USUALLY represents strength.
    If he leans forward, that USUALLY represents weakness.

    Once again, poker tells aren't black and white. It's a gray
    area, where everything needs to be considered together...

    4. Bet Amount

    If a player tends to make small bets, but then places an
    unusually large bet, he could be holding a strong hand. Or
    he may be trying to buy the pot.

    Always watch for irregularities in betting patterns... most
    amateurs don't mix up their bets enough, which gives you an
    easy edge if you pay attention.

    5. Pulse

    This is one of the only "body tells" that I find works most
    of the time. You can usually see the intensity of a player's
    pulse by looking closely at his neck.

    Often if a player gets "shaky," he usually has a great hand.
    If the player is cool and collected, it's probably a fake.

    6. Your Gut Feeling

    Depending on your poker experience, your gut will often be
    your best guide...

    I've been playing poker for so long now that when I sit down
    with newbies, I can usually read the players almost
    INSTANTLY, without much thought.

    It just comes naturally... and it will come naturally to
    you, too... once you gain a lot of experience under your
    belt... and once you spend enough time studying the game.

    With the pros, of course, you've got to be much more
    careful, because they DO know how to disguise their tells
    and play their hands in an unpredictable manner.

    So, to recap:

    1. When you sit down to play at a table of strangers...
    especially in a tournament... take your time before becoming
    involved in a hand.

    2. Go through a careful "Study Period." During this time,
    SHUT UP and STUDY the players intensely.

    3. When you start betting, watch for the six things we
    discussed: past play, timing, posture, bet amount, pulse,
    and your own gut instincts.

    Finally... there's one more step to add...

    And that is:

    NEVER REVEAL THE WAY YOU THINK.

    Here's what I mean...

    Poker is truly a BATTLE of minds. The tells we've been
    discussing are mostly simple REFLECTIONS of how a player is
    thinking at the time of a bet.

    For some reason, it's a natural tendency in all of us to
    share our thoughts at the poker table... ESPECIALLY when we
    aren't involved in hands.

    This is more common during "home games" than in tournament
    play or casinos...

    For instance, let's say there's a heads up match between Don
    and John after the river card.

    Don goes all in...

    The river was the third diamond on the board. John has trip
    Aces.

    (Of course, a flush would beat John's three of a kind.)

    Anyway... John's has to decide whether Don is a on a
    bluff... or if he caught the diamond flush.

    THIS is where everyone starts screwing up:

    Since Don is all in... and can't change his mind... John
    shows his trip Aces to the other guys at the table who
    aren't in the hand.

    He says, "Man, I don't know whether to call. Don made a
    pre-flop raise... I think he's just pot-committed and is
    trying to buy it."

    Someone else might chime in, "Yea, but he seems like he's
    got the flush. Did you notice how he's been quiet the whole
    hand?"

    Someone else says, "C'mon wuss. Just call his bet and go
    all-in... I'm getting tired and want to get going."

    And so on...

    Do you see where I'm going with this?

    John should NEVER show his Aces to the other guys of
    course... aside from being bad poker etiquette, now they
    just saw an entire "free hand" and got to see how John acted
    the whole way with his three of a kind.

    The next guy just revealed that he's been watching how
    SILENT Don has been... which clues everyone in on how this
    guy thinks about tells. Now you know to be very conscious
    about how much you talk around this player.

    And the third guy reveals an attitude of carelessness...
    which means as soon as I caught a good hand I'd try to get
    in a heads-up match with him and go all in... because
    there's a decent chance he'll call.

    When you reveal your THINKING PROCESS, you're simply GIVING
    AWAY tons of crucial information... FOR NO REASON.

    The other players at the table with pick up a read on you
    quickly... both consciously and subconsciously.

    So don't do it.

    Period.
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    Post by Admin Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:45 pm

    Great post Craig, keep em coming it all helps develop the skills and ability of our players, Thank you

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